MEMORIES 
        OF EUROPE, PRIOR TO 1905
        Transcription of Audiocassette tape 
        By the daughters of the brother of Itzhak Kottler of Postav (son of Chaim 
        Zalmen)
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        FREEDA HURWITZ: My father did it. Laybe 
        11 didn't, see. And Yitzhak did it.
        12 BEA WEINBERG: Yitzhak didn't live -- he 
        13 lived in Postov.
        14 FREEDA HURWITZ: In Postov. 
        15 SYLVIA LEVINSON: Where was Postov?
        16 BEA WEINBERG: Postov was, I suppose, 
        17 about forty miles away.
        18 SYLVIA LEVINSON: At the time you lived 
        19 there, was that Poland? Was it Russia; what was 
        20 it?
        21 BEA WEINBERG: I think it was Latvia. ( She was wrong it should be Russia/ 
        Belarus)
        SYLVIA LEVINSON: Latvia. I looked on the 
        23 map and I found Riga which you said was a big 
        24 town. That's Latvia.
        25 BEA WEINBERG: In Latvia, sure. 
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         1 FREEDA HURWITZ: Where 
          was Vilna? Vilna 
          2 gubernia, our place was Vilna gubernia. That's 
          3 like a state, like a state and that was called 
          4 gubernia at that time.
          5 SYLVIA LEVINSON: That's Latvia?
          6 FREEDA HURWITZ: But it was under the 
          7 czar.
          8 SYLVIA LEVINSON: Yes. But it was part of 
          9 Russia at that time.
          10 FREEDA HURWITZ: Yes. And we had another 
          11 aunt, Teibe........
          ........FREEDA HURWITZ: Yes. Yes. And then when 
          15 the war broke out -- 
          16 BEA WEINBERG: Which war?
          17 SYLVIA LEVINSON: That was the Boer War.
          18 BEA WEINBERG: The Boer War.
          19 FREEDA HURWITZ: That's when we packed up 
          20 and we went to Postov, what war was that?
          21 SYLVIA LEVINSON: The Sino-Japanese War?
          22 FREEDA HURWITZ: Yes. Absolutely. And we 
          23 got frightened because the soldiers, you see, 
          24 the (inaudible) was not far from us so we were 
          25 very frightened. You know how they mujiks, the 
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         1 soldiers and we were girls 
          so some of us went to 
          2 Postov. Our grandma, my mother's mother, lived 
          3 in Postov. What was her name? Sarah Bashe?
          4 BEA WEINBERG: Yes.
          5 FREEDA HURWITZ: Her name was Sarah Bashe.
          6 SYLVIA LEVINSON: I must be named after 
          7 her.
          8 FREEDA HURWITZ: You were named Sylvia, 
          9 Sarah --
          10 SYLVIA LEVINSON: Sarah Esther.
          11 FREEDA HURWITZ: Esther. So you were 
          12 named after --
          13 SYLVIA LEVINSON: After both grandmothers.
          14 FREEDA HURWITZ: Yes. So I went, I think 
          15 you went, to Postov. And I remember we were all 
          16 frightened. Some of them were hiding, you know. 
          17 And after the soldiers passed, we all came home. 
          18 And that's when we made up our minds that we 
          19 were going to leave and we were going to 
          20 America.
          21 SYLVIA LEVINSON: Didn't also I remember 
          22 you saying something about Grandpa had reverses 
          23 because of the Boer War in South Africa?
          24 BEA WEINBERG: Yes. There was no way to 
          25 ship, you know, the logs, and everything, the 
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         1 wood that they handled. 
          They did a lot of 
          2 business with South Africa. And that was cut 
          3 off. And the farm that we lived on didn't yield 
          4 enough to make a living. And the girls, the 
          5 children, were growing up. They had to have an 
          6 education.
          7 FREEDA HURWITZ: Well, Ray went to Vilna. 
          8 BEA WEINBERG: So we had private tutors. 
          9 We had private tutors. Of course, a tutor in 
          10 those days would get -- a Hebrew teacher, what .....
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